But one alternative is to have a church, mosque, and a Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu temple, close together on every corner with no ones sign larger or higher than the rest, to remind ourselves we can indeed all truly get along. I only presume that peoples experiences of God are a mixed bag that lay along a very wide spectrum. Or Osama bin Ladin or Warren Jeffs for that matter. Bringing people together seems easier when their differences are not discussed. 254). It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, where "'the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched.' Messiah College There is no difference between His Person and His Attributes, and His Attributes should not be differentiated or distinguished from His Person. Mysticsare . With the exact same merit. in being with another person expressing love in ones flesh. And there seems to be a bit of a one-way mirror phenomenon going on. Instead, he needs to go the edge of the realm and scratch against the edges. I said that when it comes to experiences, peoples experience of Allah or Yahweh or Jesus or Krishna or Buddha lay along a wide spectrum. [1] But what is your source of the claim that God prefers paradox and mystery? As I see it, knowledge ofGod accesses different ways of knowing. Thanks for this post. Peter K. Enns Professor, Department of Government and Brooks School of Public Policy and Robert S. Harrison Director of the Cornell Center for Social Sciences Summary Peter K. Enns is a Professor in the Department of Government and the Brooks School of Public Policy and Robert S. Harrison Director of the Cornell Center for Social Sciences. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Acts of Interpretation features essays by biblical scholars and theologians offering broad reflections on key interpretive issues, rich readings of challenging biblical texts, and interaction with the Christian exegetical tradition from Melito of Sardis to Dietrich Bonhoeffer.The contributors to this volume are leading figures in the theological interpretation of Scripture. Reason and sagacity cannot visualise Him. Peter Enns' new book, How the Bible Actually Works, at its best seeks to place us on the hard, but rewarding, path of wisdom. And I am not sure about the analogy concerning trusting your wife, unless you wake up everyday lying literally next to a flesh and blood Jesus who literally speaks with you or even makes you breakfast some mornings. Thats not to say that understanding the world as-is doesnt matter; it does. What are you reading good Sir, that I may know too? Are you willing to also consider; Hindu scriptures, Muslim scriptures, Buddhist, scriptures, Taoists scriptures, etc? We also know how it may be tricked to produce the illusion of say motion or scale that is not really there. As is knowledge of Heavenly Father. D. Modl, Archologie zwischen Mur und . " To love as God loves means loving not just others like us, but those who are not. This is perhaps another way to look at the sin of certainty. Now to consider these values a bit, we can exercise some examples. Maybe even online? Sorry, curious. Thats why all we need to focus on is the Way; which is your way that youre honestly seeking God. Methinks, if I loved him more, I should keep himI should keep myself, ratherat a more respectful distance. So true. Take sight perception as an example. Thanks for an honest perspective which does not offer more than can be proven. Most people who are not believers are not believers because this side has so much certainty over things that we should not be saying we have so much certainty over. Adam's name appears first in Genesis 1 with a collective sense, as "mankind"; subsequently in Genesis 2-3 it carries the definite article ha, equivalent to English "the", indicating that this is "the man". Personally, I talk to God, make intercession, and he orchestrates reality beyond the sphere of my influence or capability to manipulate the results. Interesting article. Can I find a certain kind of longing and hope to possibly be filled even on the Trump Train? Well that seems to me to be more of a way of guessing then? Christian mysticism should . I count it a great privilege to help students keep their horizons in front of them and come to know God better on their life-journey. When people insist that the Apostles Creed is where you have to start, its no wonder that you wind up with some people who dont believe in God and other people who dont believe in the World. Its generally NOT considered trustworthy; if it was then Bigfoot and alien abductions would be accepted beyond the fringe as accurate descriptions of reality/history. The Christian scriptures are clear that we can indeed experience God if we respond to Him when He calls us. Thank you Joseph. How have we regressed so far in 56 years? " The Bible - from back to front - is the story of God told from the limited point of view of real people living at a certain place and time. I use the words intelligent and basis. The question presumes that belief in God is something to be settled on the basis of intelligence, education, knowledge of facts, etc. It is vitally important that we respond with a yes when He calls, and this is why humility is sooo important. He is the podcast host of The Bible for Normal People. It is no more Western and modern than the Greek-named constellations are ancient and Greek or the Arabic-named stars are Medieval and Arab. But does anyone really need to write a book to make explicit what every religious person implicitly practices in terms of maintaining their beliefs and holy practices? Every compound elements etc possesses shape and colour that attracts the senses. Peter Enns (Ph.D., Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of biblical studies at Eastern University in St. Davids, Pennsylvania. perhaps the matter of knowing God is based on ones necessity to survive. http://edward-t-babinski.blogspot.com/2015/08/christians-or-non-christians-who-suffer.html The Quran Chapter 112, Things are compound elements atoms etc, made of parts. You made some very good points. I also visited Westminster Seminary in my early 20s and purchased some books in the store there, caught a glimpse of Cornelius Van Til, and later I exchanged emails with Paul Seely on biblical cosmology, a WTS graduate. Not really. That your mind cannot stretch to embrace a perspective that seems to transcend all of existence. and disasters After I became more of a questioner, and more curious about a lot of things I no longer experienced such manic-depression. . People who can conceive N concepts of God seem more adapt at considering the one concept of God of the person who can conceive one concept of God than people who can conceive one concept of God making sense of the N concepts of God of the others schema. Thanks Pete, I expressed my full view in a direct response above. The Evolution of Adam: What the Bible does and doesn't say about human origins Jonathan Jong 2012, Theology and Science Abstract In this review, I summarize and critically evaluate Peter Enns's claim that evangelicals ought not read Genesis 13 literally. As is our collaborative aspects of the scientific method. . Peter Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is the Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University in St. Davids, Pennsylvania. There are multiple (a lot!) I think the wrong way of knowing Peter refers to as rational analysis possibly could be better worded as non-paradoxical., In some ways (at least today), I cant help but think the answer to the does God exist? riddle is the Zens .. 185-ca. It is in this context, that Christianity, for me, is a profound disappointment. Or become a universalist mystic, or a philosophical theist rather than a religious one, and continue to question just what kind of God really exists, and what we can know for sure about who or what God is? They explore the potential behind reading the Bible creatively, the dangers of our modernist sense of truth, and the growing desire for . Magic is not real therefore magical deities are impossible. Enns' view is that the Bible is essentially a human collection (s) of different stories (by different authors/editors) that have a common reference to "God". I think that if the objective is to free people from reifying and trusting their own beliefs rather than trusting the living God, invoking the word sin frequently, which is an evangelical habit, is counterproductive. If the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ does exist, watch out. To paraphrase a much more succinct statement on the matter faith without works is a setup for very damaging failure. There are emergent properties associated with all healthy relationships, and these are put at risk when we struggle with knowing and doubting to maladaptive degrees. just try it i bet you gain their trust better. After writing "Analysis of Rachel Held Evan's Book "Inspired" Part 1: Introduction" yesterday I noticed that Rachel Held Evans sees Peter Enns as a mentor. In asking does God exist?, Ive heard it said that two very large questions are revealed or not. There are also cases of people who were converted to Christianity after suffering drug or alcohol addiction, but later they realized Christianity was their new drug and gave that up too, and felt BETTER for having done so: Outside of his academic work Enns is a contributor to HuffPost and Patheos. read the whole Chicago Statement aloud to his cat, Marmalade. . depth And look to see if theyre shared. Because of the differences in interpreting Adam by biblical scholars, Dr. Enns believes that it is unwise to "cling too rigidly to any one approach" (107). My personal thought is that 11 Peter is one of the later books of the NT; likely written circa 125-150 AD. Intelligence, understanding and attainment cannot attain the depth of knowledge to study or scrutinise the Godhead. Im still working on itof course. But is that version of a Messiah a bringer of healing to all? I didnt say anything about your knowledge of other religions. Peter Enns is the last person that I will analyze simply because he probably best typifies what can happen once one begins the downward spiral on adopting an evolutionary view to Scripture. Peter Enns is Abram S. Clemens Professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, Pennsylvania. Peter Enns is a very appealing writer evidenced in his The Bible Tells Me So. In The Sin of Certainty: Why God Desires Our Trust More than our "Correct" Beliefs, Enns argues that certainty (especially the theological variety) is inappropriate, dangerous and unbiblical. Evidence used that way is a foundationalist dead end, but thats not the only way of interpreting Experience, of which scientific experiments are one kind. And I would suggest this hypothetical is realized in all actuality within spiritual perception. I love this observation, especially about projects and their being emphatically contrasted to silence and solitude. Read Dr. Enns onAcademia.edu One, what does God mean? Faced with the incoherence of a fundamentalist/evangelical reaction to modernity, I have no problem accepting Pascals Wager and embracing your mystical/existential explanation. Interesting Beau, thanks. Enns's methodology seems to be in direct conflict with an understanding of Scripture that affirms one divine author (and therefore one truth), and with a hermeneutic that, for the sake of knowing God and his gospel better, seeks to bring the entire relevant teaching of Scripture to bear on a particular passage.36 This is the reason, it seems . Such soon discover that He is indeed a God Who communicates and is very capable of laying out a clear path for us to follow. Peter Enns Quotes. It is a form of knowing often described as contemplative. It is not when I am going to meet him, but when I am just turning away and leaving him alone, that I discover that God is. I want to be like you. Scientism and that we can only know things based on empirical evidence or data is also obviously wrong. Simply, the method yields divergent knowings, perhaps even a different sin of certainty. What are your thoughts on passages like 1 John 5:13, which indicate explicitly that it is possible for a person to know with rational certainty whether or not there is a God and whether or not they can truly believe in Jesus being the Messiah. Youre closer than you think. Such as I would imagine the Eastern Orthodox who are known for such practice and perspective on faith. Why do I believe in God? Or at least you have come near enough to listen and understand much of what Frank has to say. But I also get that Christianity isnt really transforming the world through compassion essentially better than anything or anyone else. As a United Methodist, part of how I articulate this is in the language of experience (1 part of what Albert Outler named the Wesleyan quadrilateral). Thoughts. the way is the path of becoming a new person because one is allowing God to lead you in a sense. fullness We dont know how to break down the ideologies of our false identities or how to welcome others with conflicting ideologies or identities. Peter is an Old Testament scholar (PhD, Harvard University) who currently teaches as Affiliate Faculty of Biblical Studies at Eastern University. The realm of the elohim and the realm of the seen (1 sam 28.13). It isnt about intellectual knowing and many people butcher Christianity when they think it is Im afraid. In both stories, the boat comes to rest on a mountain and birds are sent out to find land. It was first proposed by the unorthodox church Father, Origen (ca. If He was visible to the eye, and perceivable to the senses, He would have resembled the things that are visible and perceivable to the senses on account of their being compound and created and in that case He would no longer have remained a creator. 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